they stay there forever and are nearly impenetrable, the only way to kill them is to bait them into a horde of zombies

引用自 Jtrocks：

they stay there forever and are nearly impenetrable, the only way to kill them is to bait them into a horde of zombies

Oh. I would have thought they would have disappeared on the 15/16th whenever the checkpoint gets overran lore wise. At least that's how I was hoping it was going to work. Hopefully the dev of this mod makes it like this because having them always there is not lore-friendly.

force friend fire + long range rifle or bomb does the job

literally asked the same question, but now I know how they work. As I understand, the player has only one day to visit them before the checkpoint is overran, I'm not sure but I tested it in debug and it seems that they are alive from 9:00 9th to 6:00 10th, somewhere around this time, probably the zombie deletion system has a timer which after running out gives them no chance of surviivng.

mod dev said that he will add more logic to soldiers, actually I'd really like to see how it all ended for them, like imagine the knox event from a refugee perspective, it would be a nightmare fuel.

引用自 Tezuka Rin. Rin Tezuka.：

mod dev said that he will add more logic to soldiers, actually I'd really like to see how it all ended for them, like imagine the knox event from a refugee perspective, it would be a nightmare fuel.

And this offended person didn't say anything about the invisible line that deletes zombies? Or is he naive enough to think that deleting my messages will somehow solve the problem? He could have at least written about his unwillingness to address this issue somewhere, instead of remaining silent. This question comes up here all the time.

引用自 rav2n：

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The reason I remove messages from people like you is because all you do is complain over and over again. Why in the world should I allow people like you to have a voice on the workshop page of my mod? You never say a single positive thing and you will be never satisfied no matter what I do.

This is a hobby project I do for fun, yet you talk about it as if it's the worst thing in the world and I'm forcing you to play it. Seriously, go touch some grass. It's actually pathetic.

All future messages posted by you will be removed as soon as I see them. I'm done talking to you.

引用自 Tezuka Rin. Rin Tezuka.：

mod dev said that he will add more logic to soldiers, actually I'd really like to see how it all ended for them, like imagine the knox event from a refugee perspective, it would be a nightmare fuel.

... and to get back on the actual topic, yes, it's being worked on. The idea is that the military should fall apart over time. It's a mechanic I want applied to e.g. police, EMTs, and other "static" factions, as soon as they are implemented.

I have it on a feature branch that I'm working on whenever I have the time for it.

引用自 Snejk：

引用自 rav2n：

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The reason I remove messages from people like you is because all you do is complain over and over again. Why in the world should I allow people like you to have a voice on the workshop page of my mod? You never say a single positive thing and you will be never satisfied no matter what I do.

This is a hobby project I do for fun, yet you talk about it as if it's the worst thing in the world and I'm forcing you to play it. Seriously, go touch some grass. It's actually pathetic.

All future messages posted by you will be removed as soon as I see them. I'm done talking to you.

Hah. You're wrong. The mod really is awesome. But your solution regarding the checkpoint is a fly in the ointment. Initially, all I suggested was adding an option in the settings to disable the military and the invisible barrier at the checkpoint. But you decided to remain silent and delete messages. Even if you'd pinned this issue somewhere under "known issues," that would have solved the problem.
Take care of yourself; the fact that you react so strongly to criticism is a bad sign. I wasn't trying to insult you or your work. There's no escape from bad comments; I know from experience.

引用自 rav2n：

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Very well. Since you seem to genuinely be trying to have a conversation and be friendly, I apologize for being rude and dismissive.

I want the factions to be a central part of the mod. If I make a sandbox option that makes it possible to disable the military all together, the goal post is already moved to that point and can't really be reversed without players getting upset. Likewise, there will be an expectation that future factions should have it as well, and then the goal post has been permanently displaced from how I want the mod to work.

The reason I introduced the "invisible wall" was because the military was constantly getting overrun. Removing it brings us back to where it was before and literally doesn't make it better.

To summarize, in my eyes, adding either of these sandbox options moves the mod in a direction I don't want to and doesn't really address the issue.

And the feature I described before i.e. the military slowly falling apart over time, adds more value in my eyes, since if the military falls apart, the checkpoint will be overrun with zombies -> the invisible wall will be removed. That "sort of" fixes the issue you're describing while keeping my vision for the mod the way I want it to be.

引用自 rav2n：

引用自 Tezuka Rin. Rin Tezuka.：

mod dev said that he will add more logic to soldiers, actually I'd really like to see how it all ended for them, like imagine the knox event from a refugee perspective, it would be a nightmare fuel.

And this offended person didn't say anything about the invisible line that deletes zombies? Or is he naive enough to think that deleting my messages will somehow solve the problem? He could have at least written about his unwillingness to address this issue somewhere, instead of remaining silent. This question comes up here all the time.

I don't know why you're so mad bro, in my opinion this system is pretty good at keeping them alive for a reasonable time at least, cause those soliders have typical startroopers aim, plus the gunfire attracts alot of zeds to the place, so for the most part it's made for a reason. It looks werid not gonna lie, but it's still WIP so I don't mind it being like that.

引用自 rav2n：

引用自 Snejk：

The reason I remove messages from people like you is because all you do is complain over and over again. Why in the world should I allow people like you to have a voice on the workshop page of my mod? You never say a single positive thing and you will be never satisfied no matter what I do.

This is a hobby project I do for fun, yet you talk about it as if it's the worst thing in the world and I'm forcing you to play it. Seriously, go touch some grass. It's actually pathetic.

All future messages posted by you will be removed as soon as I see them. I'm done talking to you.

Hah. You're wrong. The mod really is awesome. But your solution regarding the checkpoint is a fly in the ointment. Initially, all I suggested was adding an option in the settings to disable the military and the invisible barrier at the checkpoint. But you decided to remain silent and delete messages. Even if you'd pinned this issue somewhere under "known issues," that would have solved the problem.
Take care of yourself; the fact that you react so strongly to criticism is a bad sign. I wasn't trying to insult you or your work. There's no escape from bad comments; I know from experience.

Bro, you really were being a ♥♥♥♥. This guy doesn't owe you ♥♥♥♥. You didn't pay for his mod. If you tried to talk to me like that, I'd delete your post too. Can you imagine the amount of effort he has to put in to create this mod? All the issues that arise from making such drastic changes to the game, and having to update it every time the devs update the game, changing codes that he might have depended on for certain features to work. I can't imagine how hard it would be just to add a single NPC to the game, and this guy has created a whole ecosystem. Factions, Needs, Robberies, Families, Dates of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Birth bro. These NPCs have whole simulated lives before you meet them. That's INSANE. Meanwhile, you're over here having a hissy fit, because you don't like the Louisville checkpoint. Get over it bro.

引用自 rav2n：

引用自 Snejk：

The reason I remove messages from people like you is because all you do is complain over and over again. Why in the world should I allow people like you to have a voice on the workshop page of my mod? You never say a single positive thing and you will be never satisfied no matter what I do.

This is a hobby project I do for fun, yet you talk about it as if it's the worst thing in the world and I'm forcing you to play it. Seriously, go touch some grass. It's actually pathetic.

All future messages posted by you will be removed as soon as I see them. I'm done talking to you.

Hah. You're wrong. The mod really is awesome. But your solution regarding the checkpoint is a fly in the ointment. Initially, all I suggested was adding an option in the settings to disable the military and the invisible barrier at the checkpoint. But you decided to remain silent and delete messages. Even if you'd pinned this issue somewhere under "known issues," that would have solved the problem.
Take care of yourself; the fact that you react so strongly to criticism is a bad sign. I wasn't trying to insult you or your work. There's no escape from bad comments; I know from experience.

It's people like you that make modders such as Snejk not want to mod for the public anymore. No one wants you or your sh!tty criticism on the workshop. There's better ways to make suggestions than acting like an entitled brat that thinks hes owed everything. Make you own zomboid mods if you're so unhappy with whats available.

引用自 DreezyMoto：

引用自 rav2n：

Hah. You're wrong. The mod really is awesome. But your solution regarding the checkpoint is a fly in the ointment. Initially, all I suggested was adding an option in the settings to disable the military and the invisible barrier at the checkpoint. But you decided to remain silent and delete messages. Even if you'd pinned this issue somewhere under "known issues," that would have solved the problem.
Take care of yourself; the fact that you react so strongly to criticism is a bad sign. I wasn't trying to insult you or your work. There's no escape from bad comments; I know from experience.

It's people like you that make modders such as Snejk not want to mod for the public anymore. No one wants you or your sh!tty criticism on the workshop. There's better ways to make suggestions than acting like an entitled brat that thinks hes owed everything. Make you own zomboid mods if you're so unhappy with whats available.

So much has been written here. Why are you guys read diagonally the posts?

Let's go over it again:

1) About a year or six months ago, I described this situation in an issue or suggestion thread, I can't remember. My post was deleted.

2) Okay, his mod is his territory, I never disputed that. And I never wrote anything else, just followed the mod's development from time to time.

3) Questions about the checkpoint kept popping up and going unanswered. Even now, if you look at the beginning of this thread and the dates of subsequent posts, there's a significant difference between the dates. And this thread would have remained dead if I hadn't written my subsequent posts. Oh yeah, he deleted them again.

4) You can continue to think I'm arrogant, but if the same question keeps coming up, any response (even "leave me alone, that's what I want") is probably better than deleting unwanted posts. Especially considering the existing "suggestion" and "Known Issues" threads.

Have fun, guys, I really won't be writing anything here anymore.
"Being offended doesn't make you right".