Byzantium can form it?

... well, I suppose Herakleios had some ideas.

Do you have other suggestions? I can disable it for Byzantium. I just liked the idea of greeks beeing able to form it :)

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Do you have other suggestions? I can disable it for Byzantium. I just liked the idea of greeks beeing able to form it :)

I think I'd add in a not BYZ requirement. Greeks could still form it with that, but not the surviving part of the Roman Empire.

I think perhaps andalusian (and maybe catalan) could be added as allowed cultures to form it, since Spain used to be their last big colony with a centre in Cartagena or Carthage (in punic "Qart Hadasht" same name as the Tunisian city of Carthage or of Neapolis on Cyprus).

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Do you have other suggestions? I can disable it for Byzantium. I just liked the idea of greeks beeing able to form it :)

Hmmm to be honest the only nations that should be allowed to fform Carthage should be Tunis and the other Berber nations. Carthaginians were not Arabs or 'African' in the way we concept it today.
Africa and Maghreb region were very different parts of the continent during Antiquity, simply because the Sahara desert was to big to allow people to travel through it. So they were more related to the Greeks than the Africans or even Egyptians.

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Hmmm to be honest the only nations that should be allowed to fform Carthage should be Tunis and the other Berber nations. Carthaginians were not Arabs or 'African' in the way we concept it today.
Africa and Maghreb region were very different parts of the continent during Antiquity, simply because the Sahara desert was to big to allow people to travel through it. So they were more related to the Greeks than the Africans or even Egyptians.

Carthaginians & canaans were semitic people originating in the region of Palestine, from linguistics to religion and so on semitic. In other words the closest thing ingame would be either hebrew in the lost cultures category or from other cultures literally arabic. The next closest one would be Tamazight or berbers as while they were not semitic in any shape, they did intermarry & berber languages adopted some canaanite vocabulary.

I think Tunis (should be renamed "Ifriqiya") could be allowed to form it, but under the current conditions this would mean they'd always form Carthage unless territorial requirements are upped such that the tag would have to expand outwards enough..

Argacyan definitely pointed out some important facts here. In the next major update culture, culture requirements and religion will be changed/added to reflect that and add more exciting gameplay.

More news coming this weekend on the Discord including Carthage 2.0+New nation+Emperor plans. Feel free to join it.

could you add an option to reform the ancient carthaginian/phoenician culture after forming carthage?

In the works for 2.0