I don't even know the specs, I glanced at them once but because I have no need for the Steam Machine, I never remembered but anything that size is going to be weaker than a standard desktop but it will be stronger than a standard gaming laptop. I am not a fan of mini PC's especially these AIO mini PC's but at least it uses Arch Linux and is customized.

Arch Linux is a highly adaptable, expert distribution of Linux so Valve did something correct here building SteamOS off of Arch instead of entry-level distro's (took them long enough as SteamOS is over 10 years old now). SteamOS used to be available for free to the public, hopefully they release the new SteamOS publicly but it's not looking good as Source Engine 2 is not public (Valve said it would be made public but they lied).

The thing I hate about this Steam box is that it will never be capable to be upgraded unlike desktops and so you are stuck with what you paid for until the Steam Machine 2.0, basically becoming a high-cost paper weight similar to laptops, not to mention the e-waste.

Too bad the Steam gear is also all proprietary and cannot be used on anything but SteamOS and the Steam Machine, perhaps you could get it to work on the standalone Arch Linux distro but I would rather see AR than VR and blah blah blah.

The components are BGA so that's a big no for starters.

Ehh I stick to the PCs I build myself. Always have been and always will.

How many games are out there that the steam companion cube can't handle? Aside from AAA schlock or freemium games (Get that linux and anticheat hate eachother).

引用自 Zogtar：

How many games are out there that the steam companion cube can't handle? Aside from AAA schlock or freemium games.

Unoptimized Unreal Engine 5 games would be the only thing that I'd be worried about.

The GabeCube isn't about being the best, it's about getting the job done.

3080's can be had for 200 bucks used.....steaming pile box is DOA

引用自 smokerob79：

3080's can be had for 200 bucks used.....steaming pile box is DOA

probably from less reputable sellers. most listings I see on ebay right now are $300 to $400

Also iirc they said the specs are equal or better than 70% of users participating in the Steam hardware survey.

it's good enough

https://youtu.be/Bg99bsQT3_E

Take it for it is worth, pure speculation at this point.

https://steamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3604681543

So it won't play the newest games coming out. So it will be worthless.

引用自 temps：

So people say the GPU is like a 2070 or 2080 equivalent or something roughly and they're complaining about it being weak. Honestly I don't think it's a bad thing because games used to be made to look pretty good on a 2070 or 2080 and when a lot of these Steam Machines get sold, developers will "target" the consoles by optimizing their games more to look good given those hardware constraints.

I don't really think this is a bad thing for gamers because as PC gamers have been spending so many hundreds of dollars on GPUs the games over the years in many cases haven't even gotten better graphically. A lot of companies seem to be saying "oh players have more GPU performance with modern GPUs, that means we can just release unoptimized slop and people's overpriced $900 GPUs will make the games work smoothly so we don't have to optimize our games."

You have games that have much higher hardware requirements despite not looking much better than games from 5 years ago. And honestly sometimes the new games even look worse despite having higher hardware requirements.

Why should PC players keep spending so many hundreds of dollars getting more powerful GPUs just to allow devs to make games less and less optimized? Maybe devs like that but its not great for the consumer financially...

Indeed. While I think there's obviously room the PC to be a testing ground for the latest and greatest hardware, not everything has to be top of the line.
That said, I do understand the concern with 8 gigs of GPU memory.

The nerdy dudes on that nerdy channel made a good point about it ceasing to be a simple "plug and play" device when people will have to adjust settings to compensate for the lower memory size. Though, playing through Steam OS those settings will probably be preset to the machine's standards, at least for verified games (as they often are on Steam Deck).

I'll just have to see the results after release

引用自 Alice Liddell：

The thing I hate about this Steam box is that it will never be capable to be upgraded unlike desktops and so you are stuck with what you paid for

I have a difference of opinion on the matter. I value a static target for game optimization.

引用自 Plaid：

Indeed. While I think there's obviously room the PC to be a testing ground for the latest and greatest hardware, not everything has to be top of the line.
That said, I do understand the concern with 8 gigs of GPU memory.

How about a testing ground for the latest and greatest software? That 8GB of VRAM becomes more desirable as a testing ground for software in development.

It may be possible to upgrade in the future for enthusiast consumer desktops, but Steam has a reliable "Hardware Survey" to track and make decisions upon.

Another way to put it, the Steam Machine sets a "tone" for the Steam platform. Retroactively against the 9th Generation, one might consider this tone to be "Judgement Day".

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Forward looking, such a tone would be focusing on the long tail of the 2nd hand market, regarding the ongoing presence of 8GB of VRAM in the market.

Video games are getting more expensive, they need more customers to buy into the games to get a return. To get more customers, they need a broader install base, a broader demographic. Raising the requirements above 8GB of VRAM, shrinks the install base.

If few people can afford more than 8GB of VRAM for the latest games, then that means fewer customers to support high graphical AAA blockbusters.