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TriantyWontyGongallow 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:18
Why do desktops and laptops ship with Windows?
Why do the majority of desktop and laptops on the consumer market ship with Windows installed?

Why can't you reasonably by the same spec machine but with blank storage and install your own operating system after purchase? I mean sure yes you can wipe the internal drive and do exactly that but why is buying it bare bones not an option?
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MinionJoe 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:25 
引用自 Faster With Feeling
Why can't you reasonably by the same spec machine but with blank storage and install your own operating system after purchase? I mean sure yes you can wipe the internal drive and do exactly that but why is buying it bare bones not an option?
Why buy a prebuilt anyway?
DragonWitcherXZ 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:27 
You need an operating system. Also, you can build a PC and it won't have Windows pre-installed.
HypersleepyNaputunia 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:28 
Yes lol reduce the price $100 let us pick for ourselves.

Microcreep monopoly would never let it happen
MinionJoe 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:32 
引用自 RyukoiMatoi
Yes lol reduce the price $100 let us pick for ourselves.

Microcreep monopoly would never let it happen
That's the thing though, if you want a Windows machine, it's actually cheaper to buy a prebuilt with Windows installed than it is to build a comparable machine and purchase a Windows license.

MS subsidizes preinstalled OSes to maintain that monopoly. Steam's hardware survey pretty much confirms it.
最后由 MinionJoe 编辑于; 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:42
Silverlight 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:35 
Microsoft pays a lot of to keep software and tech companies on their side. IT's always been this way.
Every new PC is a new way to farm DATA. Esepcially with 11 and copilot AI.

You can buy computers that ship with Linux- you just have to look for them.

I think that when SteamOS launches for desktop though you may see some PCs ship with that.
最后由 Silverlight 编辑于; 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:35
Rumpelcrutchskin 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:57 
You would be surprised of how big % of population doesn`t have slightest idea how to install OS.
MinionJoe 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 4:59 
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
You would be surprised of how big % of population doesn`t have slightest idea how to install OS.
The sad thing it the percentage is probably only a little bit more than the percentage of the population that doesn't care to learn how to install an OS.
bluesky66621 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:04 
引用自 Faster With Feeling
Why do the majority of desktop and laptops on the consumer market ship with Windows installed?

Why can't you reasonably by the same spec machine but with blank storage and install your own operating system after purchase? I mean sure yes you can wipe the internal drive and do exactly that but why is buying it bare bones not an option?

Considering that modern PC's doesn't come with CD/DVD drives. How would a user install windows without using a different computer? Installing Windows using flash drive is a hit or miss depending on the motherboard that provides installation by flash drive as a boot up option.

Most consumer PC's already factored in the price that you pay for purchase of windows software. So there would not be needed to pay for software twice.
HypersleepyNaputunia 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:08 
Windows install is pretty easy. Buy your $100 cheaper laptop. Decide you want windows, if u do you buy the windows box with a usb stick in it at store. Put in stick and boot. A little card that tells you where to put the usb into. Windows installercis super easy choose user choose pw, choose location, all that
Electric Cupcake 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:25 
It used to say in the terms of service that you could refuse the Windows licence and the retailer would refund the cost of the OS. I don't know if it still does, but Richard Stallman made a big show of organizing a "windows refund day" and few if any stores honored it.
vkobe 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:29 
引用自 Faster With Feeling
Why do the majority of desktop and laptops on the consumer market ship with Windows installed?

Why can't you reasonably by the same spec machine but with blank storage and install your own operating system after purchase? I mean sure yes you can wipe the internal drive and do exactly that but why is buying it bare bones not an option?
mac not so friendly if you want do wathever you want, you need tim cook permission, may change with EU rule, but currently mac is not enjoyable to use if you want to do wathever you want with your pc

linux and google chrome need experience to program stuff, so you need to work more to run your stuff with linux and google chrome
vkobe 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:32 
引用自 MinionJoe
引用自 RyukoiMatoi
Yes lol reduce the price $100 let us pick for ourselves.

Microcreep monopoly would never let it happen
That's the thing though, if you want a Windows machine, it's actually cheaper to buy a prebuilt with Windows installed than it is to build a comparable machine and purchase a Windows license.

MS subsidizes preinstalled OSes to maintain that monopoly. Steam's hardware survey pretty much confirms it.
nope it is cheaper to buy separate piece for your pc, you can buy only what you need, not need stuff you dont need, also separate piece may be in promotion
vkobe 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:33 
引用自 bluesky66621
引用自 Faster With Feeling
Why do the majority of desktop and laptops on the consumer market ship with Windows installed?

Why can't you reasonably by the same spec machine but with blank storage and install your own operating system after purchase? I mean sure yes you can wipe the internal drive and do exactly that but why is buying it bare bones not an option?

Considering that modern PC's doesn't come with CD/DVD drives. How would a user install windows without using a different computer? Installing Windows using flash drive is a hit or miss depending on the motherboard that provides installation by flash drive as a boot up option.

Most consumer PC's already factored in the price that you pay for purchase of windows software. So there would not be needed to pay for software twice.
you use usb key, they have OS
zep. 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:48 
this guy has never heard of sponsorships and the so called demand of the "free market."

pretty sure you can buy used and completely wiped laptops and other machines on net markets and such, also search for system76 and pinebook, those two are pretty popular.

if you really want a completely free system, search libreboot, and coreboot, this is only if you are really paranoid (like void users). i'm sure there is a lot that i could be missing, but these come to mind with your question, i hope this helps.
Stormer 2024 年 11 月 19 日 下午 5:49 
you can but if someone is buying a prebuilt the majority of the time they dont want to deal with setting up an OS and just want it to work the second they plug it in
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